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Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by Daddy needs mils on Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:42 pm

In a WORLD that business is done approximately in 85% English language, this idiot thinks we should be mandated to speak Spanish, in this country.

While bilingual is a good thing overall, the emphasis should be that imigrants (illegal or legal) should speak English while here in the USA. In France, you had better understand French. While in Germany, you had better understand German. If you go to Mexico, you should understand Spanish.

"Now I agree that immigrants should learn English. I agree with that. But … understand this: Instead of worrying about whether immigrants can learn English—they’ll learn English—you need to make sure your child can speak Spanish. You should be thinking about how can your child become bilingual? We should have every child speaking more than one language"

http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/07/09/obama-make-sure-your-child-can-speak-spanish/

Now listen to this babboon without his teleprompter. Stuttering to remember what he was supposedd to say, and how we should be embarrased because europen countries make you speak their language when you are there.
http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/07/8940_obama_aprende_e.html


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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by JGWellington on Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:49 pm

Wow, that is quite a bit of pandering to the immigrants from south of the border. Suspect

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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by dinarboy on Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:13 pm

Spanish YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!! I'm US Citizen Fully Bilingual English and Spanish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by zimbu on Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:35 pm

Now listen to this babboon without his teleprompter. Stuttering to remember what he was supposedd to say, and how we should be embarrased because europen countries make you speak their language when you are there.

Pretty easy to spot the racisim in that remark.
Calling a black man a Babboon?
Why don't you just come out and call him a "porch monkey"?

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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by Daddy needs mils on Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:16 pm

zimbu wrote:
Now listen to this babboon without his teleprompter. Stuttering to remember what he was supposedd to say, and how we should be embarrased because europen countries make you speak their language when you are there.

Pretty easy to spot the racisim in that remark.
Calling a black man a Babboon?
Why don't you just come out and call him a "porch monkey"?

Zimmer

Never meant it that way Zimmy. I have always been clear that I judge by content. I have even taken heat for quoting Martin Luther King, Jr. so many times.

I have called Bill Clinton a babboon before and even McCain on the other site at least once that I can remember.

I was calling the man a babboon by the way he handles HIMSELF! Please don't tell me you think he is graceful without a teleprompter. Even Bush has been called a babboon by others here (IIF site) in his speeches, possibly even by you.


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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by Daddy needs mils on Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:23 pm

NID2008 wrote:Spanish YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!! I'm US Citizen Fully Bilingual English and Spanish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I applaud you and many others that can be fluent in different languages.

When I was in school, I was a typical teenager. It was shoved down my throat (even in the late 60's and 70's in California), and I rebelled like most I knew. I made sure I didn't use it.

I can understand quite a bit if it is spoken v e r y s l o w l y. Latin is what I wanted to take because of the commonality it shares with so many languages. I took that in Jr. College. My choice.

My point being that cramming it down kids throats will produce some rebellion anyway, whether it is Spanish OR English. Maybe this is why so many schools see such poor progress.

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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by Daddy needs mils on Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:31 pm

zimbu wrote:
Now listen to this babboon without his teleprompter. Stuttering to remember what he was supposedd to say, and how we should be embarrased because europen countries make you speak their language when you are there.

Pretty easy to spot the racisim in that remark.
Calling a black man a Babboon?
Why don't you just come out and call him a "porch monkey"?

Zimmer

You know, I can't figure out why you have to make race an issue here.

You know very well that none of my posts on any site have ever had a racist remark in any of them.

Be careful here...When you point a finger at someone, you have three pointing back at you. (yes, I know it's old, but it doesn't change the truth of it)

HMMMMMMM.

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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by PeggySue on Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:39 pm

Why is it just spanish? This country has other large ethnic groups.
And DNM, all of my kids HAD to take a second language in high school. A loss of time that could have been spent on writing,reading and math. None of them use the language they had to take.

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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by TerryTate on Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:40 pm

Don't apologize to Zimbu DNM. He's just trying to derail the thread as usual. Kinda like this story:

A special meeting about Dallas County traffic tickets turned tense and bizarre this afternoon.


County commissioners were discussing problems with the central
collections office that is used to process traffic ticket payments and
handle other paperwork normally done by the JP Courts.


Commissioner Kenneth Mayfield, who is white, said it seemed that
central collections "has become a black hole" because paperwork
reportedly has become lost in the office.



Commissioner John Wiley Price, who is black, interrupted him with a
loud "Excuse me!
" He then corrected his colleague, saying the office
has become a "white hole."



That prompted Judge Thomas Jones, who is black, to demand an apology from Mayfield for his racially insensitive analogy.


Mayfield shot back that it was a figure of speech and a science
term. A black hole, according to Webster's, is perhaps "the invisible
remains of a collapsed star, with an intense gravitational field from
which neither light nor matter can escape." (Like no Duh-ignorant idiots-my comment.)



Other county officials quickly interceded to break it up and get the
meeting back on track. TV news cameras were rolling, after all.

http://cityhallblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/07/dallas-county-meeting-turns-ra.html

You see, it doesn't matter what you say. If an idiot wants to accuse you of something they will, no matter how stupid the statement is. Do not trouble with fools for they are like a drowning man that will take you down with them.

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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by TerryTate on Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:43 pm

Heres video of Obama telling U.S. citizens what they should do:

Video---->http://patdollard.com/2008/07/idiotic-hussein-quote-of-the-day-video/

Who does this guy think he is? Last time I checked he's just a U.S. citizen like me right? Course his birth certificate may say otherwise....

Arrogant is a term that is apt for this man.

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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by Daddy needs mils on Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:16 pm

TerryTate wrote:Don't apologize to Zimbu DNM. He's just trying to derail the thread as usual. Kinda like this story:

A special meeting about Dallas County traffic tickets turned tense and bizarre this afternoon.


County commissioners were discussing problems with the central
collections office that is used to process traffic ticket payments and
handle other paperwork normally done by the JP Courts.


Commissioner Kenneth Mayfield, who is white, said it seemed that
central collections "has become a black hole" because paperwork
reportedly has become lost in the office.



Commissioner John Wiley Price, who is black, interrupted him with a
loud "Excuse me!
" He then corrected his colleague, saying the office
has become a "white hole."



That prompted Judge Thomas Jones, who is black, to demand an apology from Mayfield for his racially insensitive analogy.


Mayfield shot back that it was a figure of speech and a science
term. A black hole, according to Webster's, is perhaps "the invisible
remains of a collapsed star, with an intense gravitational field from
which neither light nor matter can escape." (Like no Duh-ignorant idiots-my comment.)



Other county officials quickly interceded to break it up and get the
meeting back on track. TV news cameras were rolling, after all.

http://cityhallblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/07/dallas-county-meeting-turns-ra.html

You see, it doesn't matter what you say. If an idiot wants to accuse you of something they will, no matter how stupid the statement is. Do not trouble with fools for they are like a drowning man that will take you down with them.

It was never meant as an apology. Just debunking his hijacking attempt to turn this into the leftist arguement that this about race.

It's about the statements of a bafoon, a moron, an pandering idiot, and all the other character flaws that he exibits whenever he speaks without a teleprompter. And Zimmy (and others) want this man to negotiate with Iran? What a Face

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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by artemus on Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:04 pm

zimbu wrote:
Now listen to this babboon without his teleprompter. Stuttering to remember what he was supposedd to say, and how we should be embarrased because europen countries make you speak their language when you are there.

Pretty easy to spot the racisim in that remark.
Calling a black man a Babboon?
Why don't you just come out and call him a "porch monkey"?

Zimmer

If the shoe fits wear it! Your right again ZIMMY! I told a baboon what was said and he was highly insulted.....After all, Baboons have also been given human rights status by your Liberal friends. monkey

As for making sure your kids learn Spanish...Ha Ha! Your lucky if they can learn English by grade 12 in this Liberal Education system!!! Who's kidding who???


Now Zimmy....Still love ya man....but don't go getting all gay on me now. pale


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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by Mr.Dinar$ on Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:27 pm

PeggySue wrote:Why is it just spanish? This country has other large ethnic groups.
And DNM, all of my kids HAD to take a second language in high school. A loss of time that could have been spent on writing,reading and math. None of them use the language they had to take.

I agree with you 100%. If you want to live in America then learn how to speak American English. If you want to live in Japan then you should learn Japanese. That shows respect to the natives that live there. Most of the world does use English as a 2nd language because of jobs, trading and so on. I don't see Filipinos or any other race besides Mexicans what the change. English should always be what we learn first in America and I hope it always will be.

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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by JUSTAGIRL on Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:25 pm

The English Language - The Language Of Businessmen World wide - Why is that? - My Daddy

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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by Geargas on Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:12 pm

The only reason to teach kids spanish is so they can talk to the people cutting their grass. Spanish would be the last language kids should be learning if they want to compete in the world arena, what does speaking spanish afford them? How about German, Japaneese, or chinese now there are 3 languages that might bump one ahead in life not spanish LOL In the USA it should be English nothing else. JMHO

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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by Belitlil on Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:09 pm

excuse me
being a lesser polyglot myself
Spanish, English and French
to me, the more languages you know, the better equipped you are to communicate with others in this complex world of ours
& since when is Spanish the only language used by the "people cutting their grass"?

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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by BIGDADDY009 on Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:48 pm

Omba hussien hittler is HAWAIIAN! LEARN HAWAIIAN, AND THEN
YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THIS CRAZY LOCAL!

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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by Geargas on Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:38 am

Belitlil wrote:excuse me
being a lesser polyglot myself
Spanish, English and French
to me, the more languages you know, the better equipped you are to communicate with others in this complex world of ours
& since when is Spanish the only language used by the "people cutting their grass"?

Dunno where do you live, 99.9% of all lawn care services around here employ non citizen non english speaking spanish people.

So what else does knowing spanish afford the kids of the USA other than caving to people who refuse to speak the language of this country. Out of any language Obama could have picked to make his point spainish should have been the logical last choice to drive his point home.

So of what benefit is it to the people of the US to speak spanish?
NONE

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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by Belitlil on Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:19 am

Maybe not to you in particular
but you have been texting with one of those
whose vernacular is Spanish and who has,
among other socially defining trivia, an M.A.

I once had a cabinet maker from the States
fix my kitchen
he was an extremely knowledgeable and likeable person
who just happened not to be able to fluently converse in Spanish

most often than not, people can pleasantly surprise you
if you give yourself permission to look beyond preconceptions and if you remember the shared humanity

"depredator natura humanus voluntate"

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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by Geargas on Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:26 am

Again what does speaking spanish afford the people of the USA. Why should our kids know spanish?

Habenas ignarus non tractet

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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by bungalowhiz on Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:50 am

Id say learn Mandarin and Hindi if you want to be able to speak to the most people.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers

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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by Belitlil on Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:14 pm

Laughing

"should?"
nobody should "do" anything
well... besides paying taxes
(and dying
as all transient beings must)

yours is a "free" country, no?

you are allowed to decide for yourself that
education is a sheer waste of time
and that every waking moment not spent
in the pursuit of money is unproductive

http://www.snopes.com/language/document/1895exam.asp

imo, education should include

"Engaging in humane civility
Practicing moral self-discipline
Appreciating beauty (in whatever language or form it takes)
Developing an autonomous self which is able to think and act on its own initiative
Understanding the necessity of life-long self-education
Developing genuine feelings of compassion and regard for one’s fellow human beings
Seeing through the current social myths and diversions"


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Re: Obama: “Make sure your child can speak Spanish”

Post by Belitlil on Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:56 pm

lol

ever read Les Miserables in the original language (or even Le Petit Prince)?
or Rilke's poems in German?

imo
each language has its very own particular cadence and beauty which cannot be translated without losing the subtle nuances (& wouldn't I like to know Arameic and Sanskrit!)
so, if given to chance to, I'd say: go ahead & learn
since knowledge can only assist one in the development
of a sense of wonder

it's still a big world
this wild and lovely and usually overlooked one of ours
which contains Whitman & Cardenal
the Taj Mahal & le Louvre
the Grand Canyon & Iguazu Falls

but then, again, I may be wrong
as the sheer enjoyment of making a new breakthrough or of a firsthand & visceral encounter with a numinous moment of pure beauty is purely useless
and we should simply burn all the Spanish copies of the writings of Cervantes, Unamuno, Pérez Galdós, del Valle Inclan, Borges, García Márquez, Cela, Lorca, Neruda, Benedetti, Cesar Vallejo, etc.

so
;-D
Fahrenheit 451, anyone?

anyway, I do believe you have all the right in world to say cheese as long as I have the same right to say queso & fromage & cheese &... ;-D

regardless of the source, the following sentiment is very ok in my book

"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for
people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."
-Noam Chomsky

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