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Where does this leave Sovereignty

Post by blackcats on Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:22 am

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080713/twl-us-iraq-diplomacy-troops-3cd7efd.html

Where does this leave the Sovereignty Law and the investment as a whole?

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Re: Where does this leave Sovereignty

Post by Sponson on Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:32 am

Much like the HCL and the TSA contracts have morphed into no-bid contracts the SOFA seems to be doing the same with a MoU that was alluded to but not specifically mentioned in this article.

Granted, I don't quite understand the technical aspects or differences between the SOFA and the MoU (note the SOFA also sidesteps a formal treaty), but it seems to be a lesser agreement that doesn't require as much political involvement.

In the last week to 10 days it seems that the Iraqis have developed a real sense of themsleves and realize they're the ones in power. They seem to realize they have the US over a barrel. There's a lot of political maneuvering going on and all we can do is wait and see how the dust settles.

I venture to say it will turn out for their best interests and I have every confidence in our venture, but I also advocate prudence.


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Re: Where does this leave Sovereignty

Post by blackcats on Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:42 am

In the last week to 10 days it seems that the Iraqis have developed a real sense of themsleves and realize they're the ones in power. They seem to realize they have the US over a barrel. There's a lot of political maneuvering going on and all we can do is wait and see how the dust settles.

Sponson I was always of the assumption that it was the Americans who had the Iraqis over a barrel with their Sovereignty Veto; I have either misunderstood that part or as you state; it is the Iraqis who have the upperhand. If this is so, then they are playing very good politics.

I wonder if the Iraqis are positioning themselves in some way to strike a deal for the American vote but what is on offer because they seem to be handling their oil affairs very well.

Anyone shed any light,

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Re: Where does this leave Sovereignty

Post by Sponson on Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:50 am

The US wants to stay in Iraq to protect their oil interests and maintain a ME presence, but there's really no reason for us to be there; thus, the political intrigue about Article VII, Sovereignty, the HCL, SOFA, etc.

As you say, they are playing very good politics. IMO of course.

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Re: Where does this leave Sovereignty

Post by dilligaf on Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:28 am

I'm starting to think that the US either doesn't have, or is not using, all the influence I once thought. You're right Sponson, the Iraqi Govt is playing extreme political hardball....dust settle please.

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